Carla, we do the all-day discussions too! I HATE them. The conversation goes nowhere and we just end up disgusted with each other. I can't stand that. Mostly I shy away from discussing his obsession with JW's and CNN (he's on Armageddon-watch). He just keeps telling me that I don't understand. UGH!
Mrs. Witness
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Jehovah or Satan? A Story of Cognitive Dissonance.
by Mrs. Witness inhad a chat with mr. witness last night.
it started out by me asking him what his definition of politics is.
i asked because he sits watching cnn and knows all about the current campaign...and it occurred to me that he was "participating" in politics, albeit on the fringe.
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Jehovah or Satan? A Story of Cognitive Dissonance.
by Mrs. Witness inhad a chat with mr. witness last night.
it started out by me asking him what his definition of politics is.
i asked because he sits watching cnn and knows all about the current campaign...and it occurred to me that he was "participating" in politics, albeit on the fringe.
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Mrs. Witness
Had a chat with Mr. Witness last night. It started out by me asking him what his definition of politics is. I asked because he sits watching CNN and knows all about the current campaign...and it occurred to me that he was "participating" in politics, albeit on the fringe. Of course, he didn't see it that way.
Our conversation rambled on as it normally does and at one point he said that if you "seek the kingdom, Jehovah will provide." So, since I am currently the "provider" for our family (hubby is a stay at home dad), I asked him if I was an instrument of Jehovah (by the look on his face, you would have thought I'd asked him to cut off his hand). He was non-committal. He did say something like if I read the bible I would know what it meant to be an instrument of Jehovah. I laughed and said, "let's be logical...you are seeking the kingdom, so Jehovah will provide. I am providing for you so I must be an instrument of Jehovah." I thought his head was going to start spinning. (Don't get me wrong...I'm not claiming to be divine in nature, I'm just trying to get him to THINK about what he says)
Then we got into territory that he didn't want to discuss (doctrinal flip-flop and child molestation) so he said something about "Satan is working" and so I laughed again and said "so now I'm an instrument of the devil?!" It was really too funny.
It finally boiled down to me getting him to admit that he has faith that the GB is giving them good information and then I hit him with "so, you put your faith in men?" (faith in men was part of our political discussion to start). He got mad then and we called it a night.
I wish I could break through. I've read threads about whether or not trying to change JW's is futile...I don't know. I keep trying to chip away by throwing things on the table. I think the biggest gun is the child molestation thing...he always comes back with "those men made a mistake and Jehoover will deal with them" but I keep trying to get him to see that the lack of action by the elders on behalf of the children and allowing the molesters to have positions of authority is just as bad as the Catholic church re-assigning priests. He can't see it now...maybe some day.
Thanks for listening to me ramble on. I just needed to share my story with people who will understand!!
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YouTube vid - very good! (url fixed)
by The Scotsman inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh86vaych58 title = jehovahs witnesses - beneath the tower of fear.. howdy folks.. plenty of jw stuff on youtube nowadays.
the link is to a vid with charles sunutko (co) speaking, in the sixties i think.
talking about 1975.. i am sure many of you have heard it before but was the first time for me, my goodness - scare the living daylights out of people.. this is a classic "fear" talk..
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Mrs. Witness
I love the samba remix!
The link has two "http"'s in it. You need to take one out.
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Mr. Flipper turns 48 on Oct 15th....
by flipper ini can't say enough about my beloved young husband -he's the best.
he would love to hear from y'all on his birthday.
he loves all of you, thinks you're the best things since sliced bread!
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Mrs. Witness
Happy Birthday Mr. Flipper from a fellow Libra! Enjoy!!
Mrs. Witness
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Scary Songs
by Clam indid you have a song or tune that used to give you the creeps when you were a kid?
i used to hate sparky's magic piano, while the theme from dr.who used to make me put my hands over my ears.. i've been trying to think of some more .
clam .
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Mrs. Witness
Hotel California. I must have been about 5 or 6 years old and had no clue what it was about, all I knew was that they talked about a "beast" and said "you can never leave".
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Can a non-JW go to a non-public function?
by RebelWife ini've never been a jw.
if i got a wild hair and decided to go to something other than a "public talk," what would happen?
would they allow someone to sit in on one of their sales meetings?
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Carla, I love the way you call your hubby "my JW". I'm going to steal it.
MY JW has warned everyone that I'm staunchly against any solicitation, but I have been invited to book studies and attended graduation parties and a baby shower (another topic...why is it OK to celebrate the "first" birthday with a baby shower but forget the child every year after that?...and, why do all JW's know their birthdays, their children's birthdays, and their parents' birthdays if birthdays are no big deal?).
Back on topic...we recently attended a funeral for the father of a man in my JW's congo. The man and his wife are really sweet. My older daughter & I both wore pants and I told her to look around the hall to see how many other women were wearing pants. She laughed when she realized it was just us two. I also saw a man with a pony-tail and a beard. I leaned over to my JW and said "he's someone's husband, right?". It's really easy to spot the UBM's at these functions!
Go to a meeting or two. It will reinforce for you that what you read here is true. Unfortunately, it will also scare you some. Sheep-like behavior is scary to me.
Mrs. Witness
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The Average JW WILL NOT Leave!!!!
by minimus inyou could have stupid new light every week published and the vast majority aren't going anywhere.
you could see proof of contradiction after contradiction right in front of your nose, if you're a witness.
and you still won't budge.. the reason: mental and spiritual laziness.
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Mme Q touched on what I think is the real reason most JW's don't leave...they don't have to make decisions. I know Mr. Witness is that way. Even a simple decision regarding where to go out to dinner can make him spin out of control. The WT takes the ambiguity of life, the messiness of life, if you will, away.
They boil it down to a simple equation: do this, this and this and you will be a happy person and have everlasting life after you die. We have all the answers you will ever need...no need to think for yourself! We'll think for you! And by the way, over here in the corner...we have a nice Kool Aid stand we'd like you to visit...
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What does an MS do?
by Mrs. Witness ini just read mr. flipper's thread about politics & appointments and began to wonder: what does a ministerial servant do?
how would one become an ms?
my hubby is gung-ho, so this might be something he's after, but i need to know more of what it's about so i can look for signs..
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Finally asked hubby if he was trying to be an MS. He said that he would LOVE to but that it took a big time committment and that he wasn't sure that he wanted to be away from the family that much (HA HA). It was confirmed for me this weekend, though, that he seems to be viewed as such anyway. We went to a JW funeral and Mr Used Car Salesman (aka the Annoying Elder) was not in attendance. So many people asked hubby where UCS was that I asked hubby "was it your turn to watch him?". Then on Sunday morning (and this was not the first time) I heard him on the phone to one of his friends, "making sure" he was awake. I asked hubby why he called him, and he said, "Brother Sleepy some times has trouble getting up". I just rolled my eyes.
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My son and daughter...making me proud...
by Billzfan23 inmy 9 year old son decides back in april that the memorial is going to be his last meeting at the kingdomhall.
so... he refuses to go to the meetings, and when forced to go - leaves the meeting right after the song and starts walking to my mother-in-law's house a couple of blocks away where he knows my sypathetic father-in-law (a raging catholic, not a jw) will have sympathy on him and say "nevermind, just leave him here with me when you go to the meetings from now on.
" the next week - the garbage man visits to collect the trash in front of the house - and my son had taken all of his meeting clothes, pants, suit jackets, ties, dress socks, etc... and left them all curbside for the trash man to pick up.
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Mrs. Witness
Awesome!! Absolutely fantastic. Hugs to your kids!!
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Time to do more covers! Caption time. Here they are.
by Wasanelder Once inhere are the latest round of covers for your apostafun.
be clever, be clear and larger fonts are best for the videos.. .
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Mrs. Witness
You are all too funny! Loved yours Para!